Scrappage Scheme

I've just seen this petition on facebook and thought it might be of interest  

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Mini-scrappage/

Thankyou for high lighting this petion, i've signed up, hopefully more will?

i have. even though its providing loads of work at the moment, and i dont know of any minis scrapped because of it - if i did there wouldnt be much left of them!

It's bl**dy annoying - that's what it is...

Mrs Siddarz and I decided that it was time to decommission the Freelander, mostly to save fuel costs going to the 'van and back.

We were looking at using the scrappage scheme, even though I don't fully agree with it (the "environmental" reasons for it are - if you pardon the pun - rubbish), but found out that it was registered 17 days too late to be covered by the scheme because it's not a rolling 10 years...

And now, just as we're waiting for its replacement to be delivered, the "&^("%"^(%)*"&^)*&%)^$£"&*(%"&_(%)!"%)_*%&R$*&() beggars decide to extend the scheme so the Freelander would have been covered!

Upshot is, we've probably lost out on £500+.

Grr.

Anyway, as far as Minis go, I've only heard of the BMW garage that stuck one outside...

you're more likely to get a better deal on a car if you don't go for the scrappage scheme discount anyway (according to the sales teams at work), especially if you buy the car on finance.

That also depends on what car maker you're buying from...

The scrappage scheme should only apply to cars built in the UK.
What's the point of subsidising cars built in Spain, France, Korea etc >

The manufacturers who signed up are:

Allied Vehicles, Audi, Bentley, BMW, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Citroen, Daihatsu, FIAT, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Isuzu, Iveco, Jaguar, Kia, Land Rover, London Taxis International, Mazda, Mercedes Benz, MG Motor, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Perodua, Peugeot, Porsche, Proton, Renault, Renault Trucks, Rolls Royce, SAAB, SEAT, SECMA UK, Skoda, Ssangyong, Subaru, Suzuki, Toyota, Vauxhall, Volkswagen, Volvo.

The ones built in Britain are (I think):

Allied Vehicles, BMW (only the MINI, of course), Ford (though most built here are exported to Europe, with most of the UK-sold ones coming from Germany and Spain), Honda (Civics and others from Swindon), Jaguar, Land Rover, London Taxis International, MG Motor (3 cars a year?   ), Nissan (only some models), Peugeot (but not for long), Rolls Royce (are you really going to notice 2k?) and Vauxhall (for now).

Ultimately the profit from the vast majority of these goes abroad anyway, whether to Japan, India, Germany, France, Korea or America - but restricting the allowance to UK-built cars only would still be seen as protectionism and/or state aid, and the EU wouldn't let that happen unless we were France or Germany  

Toyota also build vehicles in the UK. theres also 2 massive parts warehouses, and loads of factories making and supplying parts as well.

So the cash ultimately goes abroad still.

But at least with that list (and Toyota as well) there are UK staff being paid UK wages - but more importantly (for the government) those staff are paying taxes to cover the scrappage scheme

some of the scrap cars were getting at the moment are truly horrific, god knows how they actually got mot'd! though there is a strong smell of burnt clutches in the yard

Does it matter what type of condition the car is in, as long as it has an MOT

from direct.gov.uk :

The vehicle you are trading in must:

    * be a car or small van weighing up to 3,500 kilograms (kg)
    * be registered in the United Kingdom (UK) on or before 31 August 1999
    * be registered with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) or Driver and Vehicle Agency (DVA) in your name
    * have been registered to you continuously for 12 calendar months before the order date of the new vehicle
    * have a UK address on the registration certificate (V5C)
    * have a current MOT test certificate before date of order for the new vehicle (or within 14 days of expiry at the time of order)
    * have a current tax disc when the order for the new vehicle is placed (or within 14 days of expiry at the time of order)
    * be insured when the order for the new vehicle is placed

Gutted about this, missed out on a gorge jag XJ something with 12000 miles genuine, cream leather and perfect matallic red paint, in the slope back model that I call the Mike Baldwin jag, 4. something litre engine, yummmm gone to the scrappers, hubby tried to get it for me to surprise me. How many classic motors are going to be swallowed by the scrappage joke?

not as many as people make out. some of the cars that are worth something that have been scrapped is all down to the ignorance of the owner. they've saved 3 cars from being scrapped at work, although the scrapped cars don't get crushed straight away, so even if it was scrapped it would have benefitted several owners after bits and pieces.

I know of a Clubby Estate at a scrappy in Aldershot, that was traded-in as part of this horrible scheme. The yard is selling everything, except the engine & body - which they MUST crush. I understand it wouldn't be a major project.  
I've signed the petition too.   >

R.

There's an article in todays Sunday Mirror stating that 9 out of every 10 cars sold under the scrappage scheme has been built abroad