Sometimes l think is this not the right forum to talk about Breast Cancer and am I doing the right thing.

Cry Wolf         

I have just received this from a new friend,

    I am now the biggest ambassador for telling women and men to insist on a proper diagnosis. Interestingly enough my friend who is a local GP has had a couple of complaints from consultants from **** for "inappropriate referrals", because he has referred young woman with similar symptoms and because they have not been malignant they have deemed his referrals inappropriate. He says the bottom line is money.

If you are lucky and your GP guesses the wrong diagnosis  and sends you to the consultant all you will be is an inappropriate referral but you will be a statistic some where.

If you are unlucky and your GP guesses  the wrong diagnosis and sends you home all you will be is unlucky.

There are no statistics for the unlucky ones and no one knows how often this happens.


I wonder what the consultant would say if he had a daughter that was unlucky because someone had guessed wrong.
    This is what Cry Wolf is all about

    * Next year about 45,000 women will get breast cancer and thank god their survival rate is growing every day.
    * Next year 1 in 2000 (or so they say) of those women will be under 30 and their survival rate is not as good as it should be.
    * Next year 1 in 200 women under the age of 40 will get breast cancer.

EARLY DETECTION GIVES YOU THE BEST CHANCE OF SURVIVAL. MAKE NO MISTAKE BREAST CANCER FOR WOMAN UNDER 30 IS VERY RARE.
YOU MAY NEVER MEET OR SEE  ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 30 WITH BREAST CANCER.

    * But if you get Breast Cancer under 30 the chances are you will have an aggressive type of cancer.
    * It won't wait for you to see your local GP.
    * It couldn't give a damn if your GP said "it's nothing".
    * It won't care how long it takes for you to get classed as a non urgent referral.
    * It might even smile to itself when your consultant says "that one can wait till next week".
    * It knows for every day you wait it can get a bigger hold on you.
    * It will go from your breast to your lymph nodes then to your bones or where ever else it wants because no one will stop it.
    * No one will know you have it and what's worse no one will believe you have it.

Breast Cancer still kills more women than any other disease and after all these years the first examination for it, is still done by feeling a lump and guessing. Three different GP's told Leigh she had nothing to worry about, even the family GP admitted that she would have said the same.
They all GUESSED wrong!

Then when Leigh did get to see a consultant he examined her and said she has breast cancer in both breasts and they have to come off, but he even got it wrong because she only had it in one breast.

Lets get rid of the guess work. Lets try and make it easier for every woman or man, no matter what age, to get checked out properly and with a mammogram or an ultrasound.

Lets make it a right for every woman, no matter what age, to walk away from their biggest killer knowing their life has not been decided by guess work. Lets try and make it a right for every woman to have access to a mammogram at any time in her life, no matter what the cost and without having to wait 3 months because if she does have cancer it won't wait.
That's what CRY WOLF is about.

Me thinks maybe the ****** learnt the hard way from Leighs' case and sends people off to get checked just in case. We all learned a lesson from Leigh, I went and had to spend a day at St. Georges in Tooting and left having had a biopsy on my left breast, There were 20 of us (older than Leigh and Nicola) and it was unnerving being the only one that did not go home after early tests that day.

I had to wait a week to find out if I had a problem but was given the all clear by phone the afternoon before my appointment. I cannot begin to imagine how anyone must feel to get the wrong news. I was nearly disappointed not to have to go back as I felt so safe in their hands. I will happily support your cause as I do privately.

Put it on the front page - not just here, of every newspaper in the land. This sort of thing needs publicity, because someone might get the strength of character to be insistent at their GP's Surgery from being aware of other women's action, and that action might just save their life.

GO FOR IT!

R.

Quoted from richardjackson99

Put it on the front page - not just here, of every newspaper in the land. This sort of thing needs publicity, because someone might get the strength of character to be insistent at their GP's Surgery from being aware of other women's action, and that action might just save their life.

GO FOR IT!

R.

exactly-well said Richard.  No-one minds at all in fact we are all behind you , I can't see anyone having a problem with it at all.

Quoted from richardjackson99

Put it on the front page - not just here, of every newspaper in the land. This sort of thing needs publicity, because someone might get the strength of character to be insistent at their GP's Surgery from being aware of other women's action, and that action might just save their life.

GO FOR IT!

R.

(bgood) :yeah (iagree) :important

:) I also agree  :)

(iagree)

re cry woolf --i wonder if you can still buy those furry tails thingys they used to have on the back of Scooters in the old days they would be good to tie them on our Mini somewhere??


(not that i saw them for real   ;Di remember seeing them on the old film/TV clips !!!)

OH no! but it is a good idea what if we could get them in pink.

i could probably buy some pink furry material and make them

im going to get some black and white material tomorrow to make some bunting for OB's Gem so ill get half a metre of that too and try  it cant be that difficult ::)

Weren't they tiger's tails, part of an Esso advertising campaign?

R.

Yes but Penny tooooooo young to remember that. I'm a  creeeeeeeeep.

yes they were. i've got a tiger in my tank and you hung them out your boot. I remember them for real

Quoted from Terry

Yes but Penny tooooooo young to remember that. I'm a  creeeeeeeeep.

lol-you big creep!!!

good idea though penny-i'll have one if you can make them!

how about a pink furry bra shape for the front of the mini i could try making one of those too  ::)

Just what I need a pink furry bra thingy at the front and a pink furry thing hanging out of the tank.
I love it.

and no i dont remember putting a tiger in the tank ------------i was too busy looking for garages with double and trable greenshields stamps for Mum and Dad and then the dreaded sticking them in the books         :X

I could tell you a very funny story one day about an old lady at an Ann Summers party I was doing and where her doctor found a green shield stamp!!!!!

oh no  please dont

I remember them, too! Got my first tennis racket with Green Shield Stamps = back in the summer of '65 (sounds like a line from Bruce Springsteen  :D).

Anr Terry, it sounds like they're planning to make you a pink furry willy warmer!


R.

OH! NO xxxxl I hope.

I sold them at Ann Summers as well. 4 sizes-small-medium-large- and liar

Linda says you're xs, like me!- I don't mean Linda says like me, just the xs bit!!! ;)

R.

Quoted from Bumble

I sold them at Ann Summers as well. 4 sizes-small-medium-large- and liar

And I only thought Green Shield stamps came in one size  ;D

Quoted from Bumble

I sold them at Ann Summers as well. 4 sizes-small-medium-large- and liar

(rofl)

Quoted from Bumble

yes they were. i've got a tiger in my tank and you hung them out your boot. I remember them for real

I remember them too - even a youngster like me!

This is the sort of thing Rita means - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Esso-Tiger-Tail-replica_W0QQitemZ150281960564QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150281960564&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

I shall view you in a whole new light, Rita.  :D

R.

OK that 4 Liars for me then but not sure about the green shield stamps

Quoted from Bumble

I could tell you a very funny story one day about an old lady at an Ann Summers party I was doing and where her doctor found a green shield stamp!!!!!

I remember you telling us thst story  :D :D :D

I also sold some quite big things that took batteries and one in particular I called Heineken as it refreshed parts others could not reach

Quoted from Bumble

I also sold some quite big things that took batteries and one in particular I called Heineken as it refreshed parts others could not reach

:D :D :D :D :D :D

please tell the green shield stamp story-i wanna know!!!

Why am I not surprised?! Anyway, what does a mere child like you know of Green Shield Stamps?

R. ;)

I'd keep it tame and polite but are the moderators happy for me to put it on. I can be trusted.

Quoted from richardjackson99

Why am I not surprised?! Anyway, what does a mere child like you know of Green Shield Stamps?

R. ;)

awww bless you but i do remember them, or perhaps it was just people talking about them.


should be funny Rita trying to tell a rude story in a manner suitable for a public forum lol!

Quoted from mabel

should be funny Rita trying to tell a rude story in a manner suitable for a public forum lol!

that's what i was thinking! and i have to admit i'm intrigued!! could keep her busy for the next week trying to censor it!

Who said it's rude it's funny and I'd keep it clean. I can send it privately if not

Quoted from Bumble

Who said it's rude it's funny and I'd keep it clean. I can send it privately if not

I guess that shows where our minds are, as we all seemed to assume it would be rude..... I know it's got to be funny, as I've been in stitches at your stories before :D

trust us to lower it to our level michelle lmao  :D :D :D




just had an idea for the tail-if you can't get pink fabric Penny you could do normal 'Wolfy' colour with a pink bow tied round the end for the breast cancer symbol?

I'm beginning to imagine what these tails are going to look like! I'm dreading someone suggesting they make THEM in pink furry fabric........

Ok here goes-a quite funny story about a green shield stamp! Some 20 years ago I used to sell Ann Summers party plan. I would be reliant on my hostess offering her guests plenty of wine and alcohol to loosen them up. One party an elderly lady,loud but full of character told us this story.

She had been for a hospital appointment and the specialist said he needed to examine her "down below ". He left her a short time to prepare herself and  she decided she would like to give herself a quick wipe...... She rummaged down the depths of her handbag and found an old tissue . She did the necessary and then waited for his return.

After the examination he thanked her and told her it was the first time he'd been given one of these. On the end of his finger he had a Green Shield stamp that must have got caught up in her tissue! True story..... I still chuckle at it.

:D :D And it made me chuckle on hearing it again Rita  :D :D

lmao- bless her that's brill!! Thanks rita!

Quoted from penny

(iagree)

re cry woolf --i wonder if you can still buy those furry tails thingys they used to have on the back of Scooters in the old days they would be good to tie them on our Mini somewhere??


(not that i saw them for real   ;Di remember seeing them on the old film/TV clips !!!)

::) Yeah right :D

Quoted from Bumble

yes they were. i've got a tiger in my tank and you hung them out your boot. I remember them for real

Unfortunately so do I - I had one hanging off the back of my Lambretta ::) :D :D

Penny is going to play with some pink fluffy stuff and see what see can do.

Quoted from penny

i could probably buy some pink furry material and make them

im going to get some black and white material tomorrow to make some bunting for OB's Gem so ill get half a metre of that too and try  it cant be that difficult ::)

Ooh! how exciting do you want me to send you any money? ;D

;D    be very afraid Rits i have half a metre of pink fluffy material to play with
;D
ive ignored previous boasting of XXL  they will all be xs  ::) ::)

no dont worry OB wait till i see you next

Quoted from penny

no dont worry OB wait till i see you next

Ok Penny as long as you're sure ;D

yes thats fine --my neighbour has a new Mini so ill use that the measure how long they need to be  :)

Quoted from Terry

Just what I need a pink furry bra thingy at the front and a pink furry thing hanging out of the tank.
I love it.

How about a 'cry wolf mini bra party' perhaps something like the moonwalks that are already organised, but everyone in the minis, man woman and child wear a bra on the outside of their clothes. They could be pink, tiger, sporty or any other type..

Quoted from penny

;D    be very afraid Rits i have half a metre of pink fluffy material to play with
;D
ive ignored previous boasting of XXL  they will all be xs  ::) ::)

no dont worry OB wait till i see you next

Just a bit concerned that these are going to look like disembodied appendages ...if you know what I mean lol!!!

Quoted from mabel

Just a bit concerned that these are going to look like disembodied appendages ...if you know what I mean lol!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D ::)

Cant wait to see what designs you come up with, sounds fab

I was having a nose around the web looking at webcams and found one called Cry Wolf, based in Devon.

Can't see much at the moment as it's dark, but where is it?

http://www.camvista.com/england/other/cry-wolf.php

Possibly combe martin wildlife park? isn't that where the guy lived with the wolves? just a guess though

a bit like me then.

now you're in trouble.....for a change!!

When those tails became trendy I was working as a veterinary nurse and I went one better than the Tiger tails. A litter of 7 five day old Jack Russell pups were brought in to have their dew claws removed and their tails docked. I don't dwell on that too much as anesthetic is not used. Anyway I kept the tail ends and threaded them on a big safety pin and wore them on my crombie! I felt like the bees' knees and they were greatly admired by my friends.
Nowadays with my views on animal welfare I can't believe I did it but they'd have gone in the bin anyway. I think it was the blood remains that made them look good!

Rita, you'll have to explain to the "kids" on here what a "Crombie" is. Never had one myself, I was on the hairy side of the divide in those days - paisley shirt, 26" bottom trousers and a Great Coat (& hair past my shoulders - I'd be happy with any hair nowadays!). And, I'm ashamed to say, the odd illegal substance. I did have a tiger tail on my first mini though - a 1963 850 super de luxe.

R.

Quoted from richardjackson99

(& hair past my shoulders - I'd be happy with any hair nowadays!).

R.

I told you not to have your back, sack & crack done  ;) :o :B

OUCH!  :'(

I meant on my head - but gravity seems to have affected my hair too, as at 40, I had hair on my head but not my back. At 54 this is reversed. Strange!

Think of the money you're saving on shampoo   ;) :)

is it offset by the extra soap & flannels not lasting as long as they used too?

No, it's offset by the saving on hairdressing.

R.

A crombie is a type of coat still similar style available nowadays. Mine was navy, single breasted with a false top pocket where I pinned my tails. I had it for years. I wonder if some of you had a Parker instead. I bet OB had one when riding her scooter!

Quoted from Bumble

A crombie is a type of coat still similar style available nowadays. Mine was navy, single breasted with a false top pocket where I pinned my tails. I had it for years. I wonder if some of you had a Parker instead. I bet OB had one when riding her scooter!

Oh I did! ;D I had my name in gold on the side-panels and an upright sparewheel carrier with a bit of fur (fake I might add) wrapped around the wheel as a back- rest for my pillion passengers ::) :D :D

Sounds good Carol. I always wanted the freedom of two wheels, but parents wern't keen - then two schoolmates went & had a crash on their Bonneville a week before my sixteenth birthday, so it was a definite NO.

R.

What's stopping you filling a dream now? Some of the new scooters look as good as the ones in the sixties.

Quoted from richardjackson99

Sounds good Carol. I always wanted the freedom of two wheels, but parents wern't keen - then two schoolmates went & had a crash on their Bonneville a week before my sixteenth birthday, so it was a definite NO.

R.

My parents said that if I wanted one I had to save up for it :B Much to their amazement I did and then I had them over a barrel - they did insist I had to have training tho - it was obviously before the days of CBT.  I took myself off to Margate Deafschool where I underwent RAC/ACU training.  I probably still have the certificate somewhere.  After I completed the training I was actually offered a job as an RAC patrol officer :o :D :D

First my parents said "No", now Mrs. J. says "No". I guess I'll never own one - might just live a bit longer tho!

R.  :-/

Everyone deserves to live 'that bit longer' if it is possible to..............

I (we here)  also agree to the campaign.....
Terry may know that we used to raise lots for breast cancer care.
In fact we still get the monthly newsletters, and have some bcc collection pots somewhere.
Also having been to the BCC house / offices/ in London, we have some contact details, etc....
Yes, most definately, go for this BIG TIME...........

Thank you for your support but we are not interest in raising loads of dosh, that we save for the CHSW. All we are going to try and do is make people aware of the things that are wrong with Breast Cancer diagnosis. This is a campaign and not an appeal there are already lots of them about.
We need as much support as possible, we are going to have a go at every consultant that uses the word inappropriate referrals. We are going to make sure every woman gets a proper diagnosis and to make sure her life is not decided on a guess.

are you going to be doing window stickers for cars Terry?

Penny is working on the 20,000 pink fluffy things, got to see how those go yet.

yes, looking forward to seeing those!

Quoted from mabel

yes, looking forward to seeing those!

Me too  :)

Oh heck ive done 16 --how many more to go ------------my head doesnt do sums ::) ::)

19.984 keep working are you on peace work.

yeh right knowing my luck my agent signed me up for 10p for every 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :(

:)or did he say £1000 every 10 :)!!! wish i could remember


(reminder to self--  make sure you have figures in writing before starting the task)

nice work penny-can we see a pic??? please??? pretty please????

I have already written the cheque for 90p so please get a move on.

Quoted from mabel

nice work penny-can we see a pic??? please??? pretty please????

Penny has the pictures but like me we cannot get then on the page.

something to look forward to then!!  hope you've remembered to take tax and national insurance out of that 90p.....

She is self employed

Quoted from penny

yeh right knowing my luck my agent signed me up for 10p for every 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :(

As much as that eh :D :D

Quoted from Terry

She is self employed

:D :D :D :D :D

no animals were harmed in the making of those tails although Bandit the black and white cat is missing!!!

hence happy look on Milly the tabby   ;D

:D :D :D :D, that looks like one of the photos they show at the end of 'have i got news for you' where they have to think of a caption!!

Looking good though penny..only 19,990 to go lol

So thats what you and Ian get up to what belongs to whom.

;D ;D I think they look great Penny  ;D WELL DONE  ;D

Great work Penny ;D

Quoted from scoobydoo

;D ;D I think they look great Penny  ;D WELL DONE  ;D

Yes, BRAvo!

(I'll get me coat...)

I've bought some pink furry fabric today only problem is I could only get a bright pink! so the SENDMR tails are going to be a different colour to the NDMR ones :B ::) ;D

No problems it's the thought that counts.

I'll get Michelle to put a picture up when I've done them, I've had a chat with Penny and I've got them cut out - just got to stitch them :B ;D

here be the SE version:



and apparently OB's abode is also covered in pink fluff too!!

They look lovely OB :-)        and ever so slightly rude heh heh heh

Lisa (minimac) thinks they look pornographic - I don't know what you all mean I'm sure ::) :D - they aren't finished yet! ;D

Quoted from O-B

Lisa (minimac) thinks they look pornographic - I don't know what you all mean I'm sure ::) :D - they aren't finished yet! ;D

one has to question how she could possibly know such a thing?!!!  :o :o :o :D :D :D

Just want to say that I think the seamstresses are doing a brilliant job.

R.

Thank you Richard ;D

Quoted from O-B

Lisa (minimac) thinks they look pornographic - I don't know what you all mean I'm sure ::) :D - they aren't finished yet! ;D

:D :D :D :D....the mind boggles as to what you are going to add to them lmao

(hysterical)(hysterical) ooh you are awful (hysterical)

perhaps two small round pink.............indicator covers?

Tracy :B you'll have the moderators deleting this thread  :D

I'm watching :D :D

nothing that scoop hadn't thought of already i bet lmao!!

I don't know what you mean  :B :B

lmao  :D :D :D

Quoted from richardjackson99

Just want to say that I think the seamstresses are doing a brilliant job.

R.

(iagree)(clap)(clap) WELL DONE  ;D

well done OB they look good --that pesky pink fluff goes along way doenst it  :'(

Thank heavens for the kleeneze sticky roller is all I can say - tho I've got through quite a lot of it in the last couple of days ::) :D

Some artistic style shots....

no comment.........snigger

ok - i've calmed myself down, they look lovely OB :-)

Quoted from mabel

no comment.........snigger

Behave ::) Scoop will have his beadie eyes on you :D :D

very nice  i like the artistic shot

how long did it take you to tidy up before you could take the photo????  :D :D

I definitely had something very similar in my Ann Summers kit

Quoted from penny

very nice  i like the artistic shot

how long did it take you to tidy up before you could take the photo????  :D :D

Tidy :B the washing machine and everything in there should be behind doors, but I've had to have the units taken out cos of my washing machine flooding the conservatory ::) I've got people coming tomorow to take up the ruined laminate so that the floor can dry out then they will come and put down new stuff - oh joy ;D

Trust Tracey to lower the tone - you wouldn't catch me doing such a thing!  ;)

Great effort everyone. I'd like to be at one of the runs on Sunday, but a 360 mile round trip to Bideford or a 250 mile round trip to Planet Thanet is a bit much with a "school day" the next day. Sorry, would love to be with you, and anyway "she who must be obeyaed" has plans for me (not that sort of plan Tracey - unfortunately!).  :P

All the best,


R.

Quoted from richardjackson99

Trust Tracey to lower the tone - you wouldn't catch me doing such a thing!  ;)

(whistle) (hmm) (whistle)

Quoted from richardjackson99

Trust Tracey to lower the tone - you wouldn't catch me doing such a thing!  ;)

Great effort everyone. I'd like to be at one of the runs on Sunday, but a 360 mile round trip to Bideford or a 250 mile round trip to Planet Thanet is a bit much with a "school day" the next day. Sorry, would love to be with you, and anyway "she who must be obeyaed" has plans for me (not that sort of plan Tracey - unfortunately!).  :P

All the best,


R.

:D :D :D :D :D :D never mind Richard better luck next time lol!!

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